Benedict XIV in Allatae sunt, 26 July 1775 renewed the much earlier and consistent prohibition against women serving at the alter, including previous popes Innocent IV (5 centuries earlier) and Gelasius V (492-496)
Pope Linus the 2nd pope, had only one known promogation extant, that women should veil their hair in Church.
Scripture also speaks against an ordained role for women.
1st Cor 14:34 And women are to be silent in the churches; utterance is not permitted to them; let them keep their rank, as the law tells them: 35 if they have any question to raise, let them ask their husbands at home. That a woman should make her voice heard in the church is not seemly.
Lk 8:1 With him were the twelve apostles, 2 and certain women, whom he had freed from evil spirits and from sicknesses, Mary who is called Magdalen, who had had seven devils cast out of her, 3 and Joanna, the wife of Chusa, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others, who ministered* to him with the means they had.
*diakonew, diakoneo, dee-ak-on-eh'-o from diakonoV - diakonos 1249; to be an attendant, i.e. wait upon menially or as a host, friend. verbal form used here, so translation to ministered is correct. They were not ordained deacons.
In Rom 13:4 'magistrate' Civil Authority or 'lawful superiors' is referred to as God's diakoneo, servant, used by God for His will. Civil leaders, including Nero obviously was not an ordained Deacon
Rom 16:1 sister Phoebe, who is in the ministry of the Church, sister is feminem while diakoneo is male, so not for her title.
It is illogical to argue that this is or was a culteral bias of the male higherarchy against women because all surrounding pagan cultures had priestesses, Jews then Christians were the counter-culteral exception to this.
The question becomes, what is the end game for all of this, the terminus or teleos? It is not just women priests and bishops, but homosexual married and dating priests
Francis answered it was not known if they were ordained or just lay helpers e.g. immersion baptism for women and verfied husband abuse
Jan 10, 2020
Women- Deaconesses? Women Priestesses?
There have never been ordained woman deacons in the history of the Catholic Church. Stories about such deaconesses are either mis-translations of the Bible or originated from Encratite heresies in Syria in the early Church. Encratites heretically taught in 200s that baptism meant a call to the monastic life, which included a vow of chastity even if married. The Encratites were a kind of proto-manicheans who held Gnostic ideas that sex was bad because the body is bad. They claimed to have women deacons, but the Nicean Coucil of 325AD condemned this in Canon 19 against Paulinist..."with regard to deaconesses we remind Church leaders that they possess no ordination, but are to be reckoned amoung the laity."
Benedict XIV in Allatae sunt, 26 July 1775 renewed the much earlier and consistent prohibition against women serving at the alter, including previous popes Innocent IV (5 centuries earlier) and Gelasius V (492-496)
Pope Linus the 2nd pope, had only one known promogation extant, that women should veil their hair in Church.
Scripture also speaks against an ordained role for women.
1st Cor 14:34 And women are to be silent in the churches; utterance is not permitted to them; let them keep their rank, as the law tells them: 35 if they have any question to raise, let them ask their husbands at home. That a woman should make her voice heard in the church is not seemly.
Lk 8:1 With him were the twelve apostles, 2 and certain women, whom he had freed from evil spirits and from sicknesses, Mary who is called Magdalen, who had had seven devils cast out of her, 3 and Joanna, the wife of Chusa, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others, who ministered* to him with the means they had.
*diakonew, diakoneo, dee-ak-on-eh'-o from diakonoV - diakonos 1249; to be an attendant, i.e. wait upon menially or as a host, friend. verbal form used here, so translation to ministered is correct. They were not ordained deacons.
In Rom 13:4 'magistrate' Civil Authority or 'lawful superiors' is referred to as God's diakoneo, servant, used by God for His will. Civil leaders, including Nero obviously was not an ordained Deacon
Rom 16:1 sister Phoebe, who is in the ministry of the Church, sister is feminem while diakoneo is male, so not for her title.
It is illogical to argue that this is or was a culteral bias of the male higherarchy against women because all surrounding pagan cultures had priestesses, Jews then Christians were the counter-culteral exception to this.
The question becomes, what is the end game for all of this, the terminus or teleos? It is not just women priests and bishops, but homosexual married and dating priests
Francis answered it was not known if they were ordained or just lay helpers e.g. immersion baptism for women and verfied husband abuse
Benedict XIV in Allatae sunt, 26 July 1775 renewed the much earlier and consistent prohibition against women serving at the alter, including previous popes Innocent IV (5 centuries earlier) and Gelasius V (492-496)
Pope Linus the 2nd pope, had only one known promogation extant, that women should veil their hair in Church.
Scripture also speaks against an ordained role for women.
1st Cor 14:34 And women are to be silent in the churches; utterance is not permitted to them; let them keep their rank, as the law tells them: 35 if they have any question to raise, let them ask their husbands at home. That a woman should make her voice heard in the church is not seemly.
Lk 8:1 With him were the twelve apostles, 2 and certain women, whom he had freed from evil spirits and from sicknesses, Mary who is called Magdalen, who had had seven devils cast out of her, 3 and Joanna, the wife of Chusa, Herod’s steward, and Susanna, and many others, who ministered* to him with the means they had.
*diakonew, diakoneo, dee-ak-on-eh'-o from diakonoV - diakonos 1249; to be an attendant, i.e. wait upon menially or as a host, friend. verbal form used here, so translation to ministered is correct. They were not ordained deacons.
In Rom 13:4 'magistrate' Civil Authority or 'lawful superiors' is referred to as God's diakoneo, servant, used by God for His will. Civil leaders, including Nero obviously was not an ordained Deacon
Rom 16:1 sister Phoebe, who is in the ministry of the Church, sister is feminem while diakoneo is male, so not for her title.
It is illogical to argue that this is or was a culteral bias of the male higherarchy against women because all surrounding pagan cultures had priestesses, Jews then Christians were the counter-culteral exception to this.
The question becomes, what is the end game for all of this, the terminus or teleos? It is not just women priests and bishops, but homosexual married and dating priests
Francis answered it was not known if they were ordained or just lay helpers e.g. immersion baptism for women and verfied husband abuse
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