
http://www.spiritdaily.com/MEDJSEPT11.htm
“Tolerance” is a one-way street with those who support Gay-Lesbian and Trans-Gendered lifestyles. NY’s Batavia
Meanwhile in
Primary Elections Tuesday, so check out the Mass. Family voter Guide: http://www.mafamily.org/voterguides2006.htm
There are very few good choices: 1st Worcester Representative – Lou Evangelidis (R) is hands down best ProLife and Pro Marriage, while Democrats Kaplan and Markles are stealth candidates that did not respond. Marie Parente and Mark Dowgiewicz look good.
In 16th Worcester Representative both John Fresolo and Melissa Murgo support Embryonic Stem Cell killing, but Fresolo would allow citizens to vote on Marriage, allow school choice, and allow opt out of High School Sex Ed. classes, while Melissa Murgo wants to corrupt kids and families by opposing all of those ideas.
Senate Race – Harriet Chandler (D) is against everything the Church is for, and Deidre Healy (D) is Non Responsive, but loves this planet, and is described by Dianne Williamson as ‘a Vulcan.’ What a choice that is!
Last chance to register to Vote in November is Wed. October 18, 2006.
If God is a Trinity, then there have to be distinctions between the three equal persons on the Trinity, and therefore, when the article you sent speaks of these distinctions, I have to ask exactly what those distinctions are. I especially have to ask exactly what do you think Ignatius of Antioch (martyred 110AD) meant, when he wrote:
“There is one God, the Almighty, who has manifested Himself by Jesus Christ His Son.”11
Specifically how does God “manifest” or make obvious Himself, through His Son? I think the only way to do that is not to repeat sending another Angel, as God did in the Old Testament, but to send God, in the person of His eternally begotten Son. Of course this ties back to my earlier argument, how does one Beget in Eternity? Since there is no time in Eternity, you cannot conceive of begetting as a process like it is on Earth. We know God spoke, and things happened instantaneously, indeed, Time started, but before He spoke, he begat his Son, eternally before Time started.
Which brings me to the part of your articles which says that
“Ignatius shows that the Son was not eternal as a person but was created, for he has the Son saying: “The Lord [Almighty God] created Me, the beginning of His ways.”12
This quote actually helps make the Trinitarian case, because Jesus is quoting Proverbs 8:22-27. Jerome translated this passage as possessed instead of created:
8:22. The Lord possessed me in the beginning of his ways, before he made any thing from the beginning.
Dominus possedit me initium viarum suarum antequam quicquam faceret a principio
8:23. I was set up from eternity, and of old, before the earth was made.
Ab aeterno ordita sum et ex antiquis antequam terra fieret
8:24. The depths were not as yet, and I was already conceived, neither had the fountains of waters as yet sprung out.
Necdum erant abyssi et ego iam concepta eram necdum fontes aquarum eruperant
8:25. The mountains, with their huge bulk, had not as yet been established: before the hills, I was brought forth:
Necdum montes gravi mole constiterant ante colles ego parturiebar
8:26. He had not yet made the earth, nor the rivers, nor the poles of the world.
Adhuc terram non fecerat et flumina et cardines orbis terrae
8:27. When he prepared the heavens, I was present: when with a certain law, and compass, he enclosed the depths:
Quando praeparabat caelos aderam quando certa lege et gyro vallabat abyssos
The translation of ‘possessed’ instead of ‘created’ is consistent with the Hebrew: In Genesis when God created the Earth, and created man, the Hebrew word is ‘bara’, but in Proverbs, the word is ‘qanah’. So I have to conclude that this quote does not make the Jehovah Witness case that Jesus is not Divine. The weight of evidence keeps me grounded to the Church’s teachings on the Trinity.
Jn 19:7 “The Jews answered him, We have a law, and by our law he ought to die, because he made himself the Son of God.”
Since Ignatius of Antioch was the third Bishop of Antioch, martyred by Emperor Trajan in 110AD, and who learned the faith from
The Epistle of Ignatius to the Ephesians
[Address] Ignatius, who is also called Theophorus, to the Church which is at Ephesus, in Asia, deservedly most happy, being blessed in the greatness and fulness of God the Father, and predestinated before the beginning [485] of time, that it should be always for an enduring and unchangeable glory, being united [486] and elected through the true passion by the will of the Father, and Jesus Christ, our God: Abundant happiness through Jesus Christ, and His undefiled grace.
[Chap.7]
There is one Physician who is possessed both of flesh and spirit; both made and not made; God existing in flesh; true life in death; both of Mary and of God; first passible and then impassible,— [534] even Jesus Christ our Lord.
[Chap.18]
For our God, Jesus Christ, was, according to the appointment [609] of God, conceived in the womb by Mary, of the seed of David, but by the Holy Ghost. He was born and baptized, that by His passion He might purify the water.
Sadly, most parents have no idea how entrenched Planned Parenthood is with the Public School system, and how their tax funded sex-ed programs not only ridicule chastity, but are actually miserable failures in their claimed goal of preventing teen pregnancy and delaying teen sexual activity.
ALL programs show you how to organize parents, how to work with reasonable school principals and administrators, and how to thwart Planned Parenthood from wrapping their tentacles around young kids.
Lou Evangelidis is Pro-Life and a strong supporter of letting us vote on the
definition of marriage as between 1 man and 1 woman.
He’s a good State Rep.
too! As is Robert Hargraves.
Just about every candidate for MA governor is Pro-Choice and Pro-Embryonic Stem Cell research (Green Party Candidate did not respond). Kerry Healy is against Chris Gabrielli’s idea of funding $1Billion Tax dollars to Embryonic Stem Cell research saying that is way too much, and she was originally against Embryonic Stem Cell research. Mihos (Independent), Gabrielli, Deval Patrick, Grace Ross (Green) and now Tom Reilly (formerly against) all support Same Sex Marriage, Kerry Healy (Republican) is opposed but does not want to put this in the Republican Platform.
A sample translation of Lanza Speak was in evidence in a recent report in the Journal Nature, where Dr. Lanza told Nature there was a breakthrough in how embryonic stem cells are harvested, saying "some of the embryos survived and were returned to frozen storage." In English, this is translated as "in other experiments some of the embryos survived and were returned to frozen storage, but the embryos that were used for these experiments did not remain intact [they died]."
Lanza Speak has been credited with stemming the recent plummeting value of ACT stock, which though “down to about 78 cents a share, …is [still] about twice as high as the 40 cents a share it traded at before the announcement [in Lanza Speak]”.